

Discussion, chats, debates are order of the day,even order of the minute when friends get together..from politics to parrot astrology…from those sites to this sights…the topic will fly back and forth, and these three friends are no exception… Raja,Kumaran and Gopal- three close friends from childhood but with contrasting characters and thoughts towards life. To put it simple- Gopal likes T20, Kumaran likes ODI and Raja likes Test match cricket..that sums the story. All three happened to watch recently released tamil movie- Selvaraghavan’s AAYIRATHIL ORUVAN…and just after the movie in food court
AAYIRATTHIL ORUVAN
- A Discussion
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Gopal: shabba !! torture da….. what does this man think ?? I actually feel sorry for the producer. He just catches hold of a producer..gets his money and
does some bull crap …and we the sufferers along with the producer…first half was good –second half nonsense!!
Kumaran: Hey chill ! Just don’t totally throw him into pit….. I agree with you but not fully..you gotto give it to him for the sheer grandeur..and his imagination…don’t forget the amount of hard work went . Dei Raja, who is the cinematographer..he just rocks man……. I never know cinematography can be at this best in tamil cinema- he just gives you the feeling that you are one of the voyagers..simply superb.
Raja: He is Ramji da- Parutthiveeran, Raam are his previous notable works.Guess he got the real opportunity to prove his mettle here. Thambi Gopal, just don’t go over board like you normally do… you people want intro song..punch dialogues… panchaayat trees…heroine falling in love with hero’s style of brushing the teeth…hero will jump from statue of liberty to Eiffel tower, and you guys clap - you simply have to watch Vijay movies then…. People like him are the real virus for tamil cinema- neither he moves forward, and seeing him nor people like Barath and Vishal are coming up…these people must change or get eradicted if at all tamil cinema should grow up.. and because of these guys you people just cant appreciate great work
Gopal: Dei Dei gimme a break. First case don’t ever tell i’m fan of Vijay movies…my taste is not that worse…but can you just tell me what was selva trying to say in this movie??..its not that you just imagine something , and show that..you have to make some sense… what was he trying to tell in second half….seri first case tell me whats this story all about…why this story ??
Raja: that’s what man….you people amaze at a foreigner, but if you have your own men matching them you either say it’s a crap or say he is amateur trying to match him.. dei kumara, you have watched TROY right ?? what does the TROY Prince, Hector, do to his wife Andromache and kid at the end, fearing of attack from Achilles..he sends them out in a secret way out of Troy and no one knew what had happened to them. If some one takes a movie now called TROY RETURNS where Achilles’ 12th generation and Hector’s 13th generation fight for their good old vengeance, you guys would go gaga over it…If a person thinks on same lines on Cholas you ppl say “hey what crap logic !!” you won’t appreciate our own talent….. Guys,the problem is this - we people know and appreciate about Illiad, Troy, Rome and Greece……. We don’t care about Thanjavur, Madurai,Cholas and Pandyas which is far superior and older civilization then all those… we were having process and norms then when those people were nomads.
Gopal: Hmm..agreed ..all fine till just before interval block…after that why those lunatic actions by the three…. Then what was he trying to tell in second half…. King and crew all fine, but so much confusion….confusion…..dei we take a break from software not to get more confused !!
Kumaran: ha ha ha…. Dei if you say you don’t understand the story…you are nothing short of sodium lamp man…
Gopal: sodium lamp ???
Kumaran: Yeah tube light just takes seconds to glow……… but sodium lamp.. (kumaran and Raja laugh at loud much to make gopal angry)
Gopal: dei dei wait…answer me..i can understand first half very well… last Chola king in 13th century, sends out his kid with care takers, out of Thanjavur to some safer place along with a big crew to safe guard from enemies,the Pandyas. And their where abouts become unknown unless an archaeologist , father of andrea, finds the place of chola prince. And upon getting no news from him, the Indian govt.team goes there..headed by Reema along with coolie gang of Karthi as helpers …. Have to agree first part is racy and superb to watch till interval block… Karthi just amazes me…just second film and even his eyes speaks a lot… tomorrow’s super stars must learn a tip or two…all is fine dude..confusion starts in interval block…
Raja: Yeah let me explain…. The crew that goes to the island after setting so much traps, then live in the same for generations…just imagine..a group of inhabitants living in an island sans any info from outer world for generations…all that they can feed is on few animals and grass….all that they have in mind is the info passed by their ancestors for generations and some stone arts …that there is a place called Thanjavur which was their heaven..strict instructions that unless you get a messenger you gotto stay in this island only…. Just imagine ! hats off to selva just for this imagination…. So what will their life style be- nothing short of chaos…ofcourse with little hope and passion towards their native land…also they live pure with respect to their culture , language….. yeah coming to your interval block confusion- we have seen and heard in history that their will always be a guru/sage in every kingdom..and his blood lines or followers would do the same for the royal family…. If you had ever studied tamil’s sangam literature or even ponniyin selvan or udayaar you would get some ideas….i know you would have never have…
Gopal: okay okay..then..whats your point here
Raja: you are believer of god right…you would have heard about Naayanmars and Aalwaars- if you belive in god you gotto believe their existence as well… haven’t you heard them doing some magics..saving a dead child…etc etc..all those were said to have wandered in Tamilnaadu during the Chola, and Pandya periods only…a guy or a group of people like that- I mean who are closer to god had also travelled along with the crew…his blood line would have been the old man , who hallucinates the three in interval block….he is kind of religious-guru for the islanders.. he has instructions from his ancestors..and he is the one who takes care of the blood line and also finds the one who will save the blood line in future..that you can see in climax!! One problem with directors like Mani ratnam and Selva are they expect too much from people to understand…you have to think those things on your own else director needs atleast 8 hours to tell full thing.
Gopal: hmm.. adhaan mattera…… but still blue colors some gas flying…. Kaali goddess – blood attack…man I couldn’t understand what was happening..that was bit too much..gotto have some logic man…. Some stress busters as well- bullet vs stone shield.. ha ha
Raja: I gotto ask you guys…if some stories on a magic school and a boy fighting with some all kinds of logic less things, you go gaga over it….. LORD OF THE RINGS – must have heard of a movie like that……… if black magic and things are shown in Hollywood its amazing ..and if its shown here is it awful ?? what guru and Reema did was witch-crafty.. which people in the past have excelled in and has come along to them..Selva even clarified this in the Press Meet..And what you expect tribe peoples to defend themselves with against bullets ?? it was told that it’s a fantasy adventure..now out of the blue you guys want out and out logic here….you don’t ask logic where your hero jumps from water falls in style or jumps for a kilometer and catches a train running at top speed….im gonna bash you da idiot !!
Kumaran: ha ha… thats all fine da……im not taking anything away from selva and team…… Everyone has done their part..Parthiban simply rocks on screen..his attire, body language, makes you glued to screen- his intro scene with all those bled shed- is kind of a killer imagination…. Andrea is multi talented no doubt- guess if talents are ranked, then her acting must come last, still selva gets the best out of her…. Azhagam perumal- he does stunner infact shows his presence only in every selva movie…. Not to forget about hundreds of junior artists… habba so much hard work…and GV,this kid is real real talent….the BG rocks..scenes of king arrival, the scene when the three first see the village, open arena scene, climax everywhere his stamp…… oh forgot Reema- man she is just awesome… a character she can’t get a whole life….
Gopal: yeah Reema’s character is top class..its like she acted in two different movies…. But again..dei Raja, the dialogues between her and Parthiban either makes no meaning or gives a bad meaning..oh and some other scenes!!..how can I take my family along ??
Raja: Dei what is the purpose of giving a clear instruction that it’s a ‘A’ certified movie….we are adults man..and obvious that you can’t tell about a King’s life of the past without all these……. Two major things most of our Kings did in their time was, that is their thought process had been these two…building architecture and human production…(laughs)… its all in the history man….. ofcourse there is a different view point to everything..the scene where young mother signifies the king that she is devoid of milk to feed her kid..was it sexy according to you ? those are scenes which will make your heart heavy man…’pemmaney’ song vairamuthu would have almost wept with all these...was the movie apocalypto looking obscene to you? This is similar…may be those who feel they are faint hearted for all these, better stay away…. Weak audience like you better stay away, rather than stopping tamil cinema moving forward.
Kumaran: Raj cool cool..thats all right..still not convinced about many things…….
Raja: what are they ?? shoot ! one by one !!
Kumaran: okay dude..what about the mobile phone…how can you speak from desert??..first case if helicopters can come with so ease, then why all these struggle earlier for the team ?
Raja: dei common..havent you heard of satellite phones….didn’t you see in jurassic park- third part?..forgot movie name ….then ….helicopters came in there only after these ppl have found their destination …… logically to a place unexplored will you go and explore in chopper ??? see these are excuses !! atleast not from you kumara !!
Gopal: tell me this….why is the name ‘aayirathil oruvan’??…. May be for the remix song ?? (laughs) actually it was cool watching that,., ofcourse I miss ‘maalai neram’ song
Raja: dei didn’t you notice Karthi just singing this line couple of times from that mgr’s movie ..may be Selva gives a hint here “naadalum adimaigalil aayiratthil naan oruvan”…….. see you can either assume that Karthi comes as one of those 1000 islanders…or one in the thousand years to carry forward the blood line to different place as foreseen in the stone-arts.
Gopal: hmm..but lot of un necessary things also.. I can just go on naming them…. Un necessary song sequence for this movie….that open arena – collosium like fight …….
Kumaran: this is limit…we have no right to talk about song sequence after making crap masala movies run for 100 days.. in this movie songs didn’t look bad at all..’un mela aasadhan’ may be just to satisfy crowd like you…didn’t look odd man…. Open arena fight ? what you expect those tribes to do…. Java programming ?? they find the best fighter among them by having like this – throwing their prisoners to fight.
Raja: well said kumara…. On the whole AAYIRATTHIL ORUVAN is movie to watch…. Im afraid people might get carried away by bad mouths and crap reviews just to win their bread..or from some bloggers who want their hero movies to be called better……. Agreed man- our parents might be not be okay with some scenes which they cant accept to see on screen..agreed- their generation is different….but we guys must appreciate Selva and team for his sheer effort, planning and process. He even confessed that he stuggled so much and needs so many more departments in FEFSI to make film more world class. Infact still wanna watch this movie again- I must have left some more important hidden messages converyed by selva. See guys you gotto accept that we are still in india..when nothing else, may be most other things aren’t matching US and other big economies, how do you expect a movie to match it over night. We have long way to go, but I can tell you we aren’t far behind. Directors like Selva ought to be given due respect……. Proud to have him in our midst. no matter im a cholan or Pandyan.. Im proud to be a tamizhan.
(Kumaran and Gopal in unison): true da.
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Let me catch you guys in another discussion of these friends sooner.
AAYIRATTHIL ORUVAN
- A Discussion
<<<>>>
Gopal: shabba !! torture da….. what does this man think ?? I actually feel sorry for the producer. He just catches hold of a producer..gets his money and
does some bull crap …and we the sufferers along with the producer…first half was good –second half nonsense!!
Kumaran: Hey chill ! Just don’t totally throw him into pit….. I agree with you but not fully..you gotto give it to him for the sheer grandeur..and his imagination…don’t forget the amount of hard work went . Dei Raja, who is the cinematographer..he just rocks man……. I never know cinematography can be at this best in tamil cinema- he just gives you the feeling that you are one of the voyagers..simply superb.
Raja: He is Ramji da- Parutthiveeran, Raam are his previous notable works.Guess he got the real opportunity to prove his mettle here. Thambi Gopal, just don’t go over board like you normally do… you people want intro song..punch dialogues… panchaayat trees…heroine falling in love with hero’s style of brushing the teeth…hero will jump from statue of liberty to Eiffel tower, and you guys clap - you simply have to watch Vijay movies then…. People like him are the real virus for tamil cinema- neither he moves forward, and seeing him nor people like Barath and Vishal are coming up…these people must change or get eradicted if at all tamil cinema should grow up.. and because of these guys you people just cant appreciate great work
Gopal: Dei Dei gimme a break. First case don’t ever tell i’m fan of Vijay movies…my taste is not that worse…but can you just tell me what was selva trying to say in this movie??..its not that you just imagine something , and show that..you have to make some sense… what was he trying to tell in second half….seri first case tell me whats this story all about…why this story ??
Raja: that’s what man….you people amaze at a foreigner, but if you have your own men matching them you either say it’s a crap or say he is amateur trying to match him.. dei kumara, you have watched TROY right ?? what does the TROY Prince, Hector, do to his wife Andromache and kid at the end, fearing of attack from Achilles..he sends them out in a secret way out of Troy and no one knew what had happened to them. If some one takes a movie now called TROY RETURNS where Achilles’ 12th generation and Hector’s 13th generation fight for their good old vengeance, you guys would go gaga over it…If a person thinks on same lines on Cholas you ppl say “hey what crap logic !!” you won’t appreciate our own talent….. Guys,the problem is this - we people know and appreciate about Illiad, Troy, Rome and Greece……. We don’t care about Thanjavur, Madurai,Cholas and Pandyas which is far superior and older civilization then all those… we were having process and norms then when those people were nomads.
Gopal: Hmm..agreed ..all fine till just before interval block…after that why those lunatic actions by the three…. Then what was he trying to tell in second half…. King and crew all fine, but so much confusion….confusion…..dei we take a break from software not to get more confused !!
Kumaran: ha ha ha…. Dei if you say you don’t understand the story…you are nothing short of sodium lamp man…
Gopal: sodium lamp ???
Kumaran: Yeah tube light just takes seconds to glow……… but sodium lamp.. (kumaran and Raja laugh at loud much to make gopal angry)
Gopal: dei dei wait…answer me..i can understand first half very well… last Chola king in 13th century, sends out his kid with care takers, out of Thanjavur to some safer place along with a big crew to safe guard from enemies,the Pandyas. And their where abouts become unknown unless an archaeologist , father of andrea, finds the place of chola prince. And upon getting no news from him, the Indian govt.team goes there..headed by Reema along with coolie gang of Karthi as helpers …. Have to agree first part is racy and superb to watch till interval block… Karthi just amazes me…just second film and even his eyes speaks a lot… tomorrow’s super stars must learn a tip or two…all is fine dude..confusion starts in interval block…
Raja: Yeah let me explain…. The crew that goes to the island after setting so much traps, then live in the same for generations…just imagine..a group of inhabitants living in an island sans any info from outer world for generations…all that they can feed is on few animals and grass….all that they have in mind is the info passed by their ancestors for generations and some stone arts …that there is a place called Thanjavur which was their heaven..strict instructions that unless you get a messenger you gotto stay in this island only…. Just imagine ! hats off to selva just for this imagination…. So what will their life style be- nothing short of chaos…ofcourse with little hope and passion towards their native land…also they live pure with respect to their culture , language….. yeah coming to your interval block confusion- we have seen and heard in history that their will always be a guru/sage in every kingdom..and his blood lines or followers would do the same for the royal family…. If you had ever studied tamil’s sangam literature or even ponniyin selvan or udayaar you would get some ideas….i know you would have never have…
Gopal: okay okay..then..whats your point here
Raja: you are believer of god right…you would have heard about Naayanmars and Aalwaars- if you belive in god you gotto believe their existence as well… haven’t you heard them doing some magics..saving a dead child…etc etc..all those were said to have wandered in Tamilnaadu during the Chola, and Pandya periods only…a guy or a group of people like that- I mean who are closer to god had also travelled along with the crew…his blood line would have been the old man , who hallucinates the three in interval block….he is kind of religious-guru for the islanders.. he has instructions from his ancestors..and he is the one who takes care of the blood line and also finds the one who will save the blood line in future..that you can see in climax!! One problem with directors like Mani ratnam and Selva are they expect too much from people to understand…you have to think those things on your own else director needs atleast 8 hours to tell full thing.
Gopal: hmm.. adhaan mattera…… but still blue colors some gas flying…. Kaali goddess – blood attack…man I couldn’t understand what was happening..that was bit too much..gotto have some logic man…. Some stress busters as well- bullet vs stone shield.. ha ha
Raja: I gotto ask you guys…if some stories on a magic school and a boy fighting with some all kinds of logic less things, you go gaga over it….. LORD OF THE RINGS – must have heard of a movie like that……… if black magic and things are shown in Hollywood its amazing ..and if its shown here is it awful ?? what guru and Reema did was witch-crafty.. which people in the past have excelled in and has come along to them..Selva even clarified this in the Press Meet..And what you expect tribe peoples to defend themselves with against bullets ?? it was told that it’s a fantasy adventure..now out of the blue you guys want out and out logic here….you don’t ask logic where your hero jumps from water falls in style or jumps for a kilometer and catches a train running at top speed….im gonna bash you da idiot !!
Kumaran: ha ha… thats all fine da……im not taking anything away from selva and team…… Everyone has done their part..Parthiban simply rocks on screen..his attire, body language, makes you glued to screen- his intro scene with all those bled shed- is kind of a killer imagination…. Andrea is multi talented no doubt- guess if talents are ranked, then her acting must come last, still selva gets the best out of her…. Azhagam perumal- he does stunner infact shows his presence only in every selva movie…. Not to forget about hundreds of junior artists… habba so much hard work…and GV,this kid is real real talent….the BG rocks..scenes of king arrival, the scene when the three first see the village, open arena scene, climax everywhere his stamp…… oh forgot Reema- man she is just awesome… a character she can’t get a whole life….
Gopal: yeah Reema’s character is top class..its like she acted in two different movies…. But again..dei Raja, the dialogues between her and Parthiban either makes no meaning or gives a bad meaning..oh and some other scenes!!..how can I take my family along ??
Raja: Dei what is the purpose of giving a clear instruction that it’s a ‘A’ certified movie….we are adults man..and obvious that you can’t tell about a King’s life of the past without all these……. Two major things most of our Kings did in their time was, that is their thought process had been these two…building architecture and human production…(laughs)… its all in the history man….. ofcourse there is a different view point to everything..the scene where young mother signifies the king that she is devoid of milk to feed her kid..was it sexy according to you ? those are scenes which will make your heart heavy man…’pemmaney’ song vairamuthu would have almost wept with all these...was the movie apocalypto looking obscene to you? This is similar…may be those who feel they are faint hearted for all these, better stay away…. Weak audience like you better stay away, rather than stopping tamil cinema moving forward.
Kumaran: Raj cool cool..thats all right..still not convinced about many things…….
Raja: what are they ?? shoot ! one by one !!
Kumaran: okay dude..what about the mobile phone…how can you speak from desert??..first case if helicopters can come with so ease, then why all these struggle earlier for the team ?
Raja: dei common..havent you heard of satellite phones….didn’t you see in jurassic park- third part?..forgot movie name ….then ….helicopters came in there only after these ppl have found their destination …… logically to a place unexplored will you go and explore in chopper ??? see these are excuses !! atleast not from you kumara !!
Gopal: tell me this….why is the name ‘aayirathil oruvan’??…. May be for the remix song ?? (laughs) actually it was cool watching that,., ofcourse I miss ‘maalai neram’ song
Raja: dei didn’t you notice Karthi just singing this line couple of times from that mgr’s movie ..may be Selva gives a hint here “naadalum adimaigalil aayiratthil naan oruvan”…….. see you can either assume that Karthi comes as one of those 1000 islanders…or one in the thousand years to carry forward the blood line to different place as foreseen in the stone-arts.
Gopal: hmm..but lot of un necessary things also.. I can just go on naming them…. Un necessary song sequence for this movie….that open arena – collosium like fight …….
Kumaran: this is limit…we have no right to talk about song sequence after making crap masala movies run for 100 days.. in this movie songs didn’t look bad at all..’un mela aasadhan’ may be just to satisfy crowd like you…didn’t look odd man…. Open arena fight ? what you expect those tribes to do…. Java programming ?? they find the best fighter among them by having like this – throwing their prisoners to fight.
Raja: well said kumara…. On the whole AAYIRATTHIL ORUVAN is movie to watch…. Im afraid people might get carried away by bad mouths and crap reviews just to win their bread..or from some bloggers who want their hero movies to be called better……. Agreed man- our parents might be not be okay with some scenes which they cant accept to see on screen..agreed- their generation is different….but we guys must appreciate Selva and team for his sheer effort, planning and process. He even confessed that he stuggled so much and needs so many more departments in FEFSI to make film more world class. Infact still wanna watch this movie again- I must have left some more important hidden messages converyed by selva. See guys you gotto accept that we are still in india..when nothing else, may be most other things aren’t matching US and other big economies, how do you expect a movie to match it over night. We have long way to go, but I can tell you we aren’t far behind. Directors like Selva ought to be given due respect……. Proud to have him in our midst. no matter im a cholan or Pandyan.. Im proud to be a tamizhan.
(Kumaran and Gopal in unison): true da.
<<<>>
Let me catch you guys in another discussion of these friends sooner.